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1  Retro Game Systems / Retro Fantasy: TSR Dungeons & Dragons / Re: Original D&D: What Classes & Rules Would You Use? on: September 20, 2008, 05:24:02 am
I don't see why this would not work. Anyone can try to steal stuff/backstab/etc. in 3LBB OD&D. While the "classic" idea of a thief is a fighter in light armor, I can easily imagine a magic-user as a thief (as that might be the easiest way to acquire magic items and spell books.

I'm fuzzy on what spells are available in the original d&d, but some of the spells from AD&D at least were quite useful for various shenanigans.  (I have a fond memory of using Ventriloquism to impersonate a deity, and on another occasion to make it appear that another character was taking full responsibility for making a young dragon ill).
2  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: September 09, 2008, 12:24:33 pm
Sorry about Necroing this thread but I want to trot out my spin on this line of reasoning.

I dont think there is anything wrong with not liking current RPGs, provided you actually give the rules a read through. If you instantly shoot down a game because its from after 1989 your being as bad as the people who insist that you play the "one true RPG".

Personally, if someone wants me to give a new game a try, and I'm not interested?  They can buy the game for me if they want so much for me to give it a chance.
3  Retro Game Systems / Retro Science Fiction and Horror RPGs / Re: Help picking out a sci-fi/horror game on: August 08, 2008, 12:47:06 am
Or perhaps they could be exploring the Hyades star cluster and come across the planet where Carcosa sits on the shores of Lake Hali? Hmmm.

And what did the Zhodani find in their Coreward expeditions?
4  Retro Game Systems / Retro Science Fiction and Horror RPGs / Re: Help picking out a sci-fi/horror game on: August 07, 2008, 04:22:10 pm
I'm very glad to hear this is available again.

On a slightly different note, Im tempted to run a Traveller run off where the players find an Ocean World...replete with Cthulhu sleeping away. Cheesy
5  Retro Game Systems / Retro Science Fiction and Horror RPGs / Re: Mongoose Traveller vs Classic Traveller on: August 07, 2008, 04:20:59 pm

I have the 4th edition of Traveller, as well as the Mongoose edition.  In the 4th ed, one got a skill roll for each *year* in character gen, whereas in Mongoose Traveller you get one skill roll per *term*.  Thus, a T4 character is going to be more skilled, generally.  Also, T4 (I dont know about earlier editions, obviously) had some more options at character gen, including special schools you coul dattend before beginning a career.

I figured you might be able to comment on these differences, and whether T4 or Mongoose Traveller is the abberation.

That said, I'll probably pick up the Mongoose supplements.  The cores look close enough that I can simply transport over what I likes, effectively using T4 with some Mongoose strap ons, and I never got Traveller supplements before.  (old school sci fi is something that's grown on me as I got older - back then I was into my fantasy, White Wolf, etc.  I'm a bit bored of 'I was born special' as a genre these days.).
6  Retro Game Systems / Modern Rules, Retro Feel / Re: Basic Roleplaying (Chaosium ) on: July 26, 2008, 03:03:50 am
I broke down and got a copy of it. It looks like they've stripped the rules from the various BRP settings ocer the years and combined them in a cleanly written single book. I could do CoC with superheroes with these rules, for example.

Are there modifications to the hit point rules?  I mean, Call of Cthulhu investigators are pretty squishy, and I probably wouldnt want superheroes that died that quickly... Wink
7  Retro Game Systems / Modern Rules, Retro Feel / Re: Basic Roleplaying (Chaosium ) on: July 17, 2008, 12:36:13 pm
Heh, thats a good point...

I suppose I like it because its only as simple or as complicated as you like.

I suspect it is also because this new BRP is being marketed as able to do any genre.  That means chapters on psionics/ magic, superpowers, various weapons, etc etc.  I've heard some good things about it, but I'm not in a hurry to get any new roleplaying games. (Unless I spot Over The Edge, perhaps).
8  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: Retro-cloning: Warts and all, or make it better? on: July 07, 2008, 11:38:10 am



If there's room for improvement, I don't see why one shouldn't make it better.  If the original rules are good, but *different*, one could perhaps include those as options.
9  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: July 06, 2008, 12:22:30 pm
Rolling characters was a game in itself back in the Classic Traveller days. Generally, failed characters like that did not get played, but were used as NPCs when one was needed.

I'm an impatient kinda guy.  I like twists that make you rethink what your character is doing (or even boons that make your character great at something you'd never normally consider doing...).  I just don't like going through character gen until I finally get something decent.  I'm not that committed.

On that topic, I quite like Sorcerer.  There's basically four stats, all your skills use a single 'cover' skill which represents what you actually do...
Plus you assign a set number of points, which is a style of game I tend to gravitate to these days.

(I also like Unknown Armies in that your toughness as a character depends on what you're willing to do, and the biggest rewards go for the biggest risks).
10  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: July 05, 2008, 04:32:38 pm
Somewhere I read that you can't die during character generation any more. Is this true? While that could be a good change for actually generating one character to play, it would really nerf the try to roll up ancient characters to kill time solitaire game.  Cool

I haven't played any of the lder Traveller editions.  I played one game with T4, so I have that edition and the Mongoose one.  In T4, you basically don't die or get injured - during character creation anyway.  But since you start aging in the game somewhere in your thirties, I think there's an incentive to stop while you're ahead.  Plus you get one skill per year, so you can actually be competent at something before the age of sixty.

In the Mongoose edition, there's the 'Iron Man' option in which you can indeed die.  As it is, in their standard version your character still runs the risk of being severely injured if unlucky, and incurring the relevant medical expenses.  In that version, however, you get one skill per four year term, so you're pretty much required to try and make it to old age.  Plus I found it frustrating that aside from missing promotions, I might completely screw up my ex-military character by losing several points from the one good stat s/he had.

I dunno.  It's one of my pet peeves that too many systems give you the wonderful opportunity to make a character who isn't actually very good at anything.  character limitations?  Great!  But it's annoying to come up with the idea of an agent character, and then arbitrarily get forced out of service in the first term.  (I'm clearly not Traveller's target audience!).
11  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: July 02, 2008, 01:31:45 pm
Some I like: Blue Rose, Microlite20 and its variants, Spirit of the Century seems interesting, and I really like what I've seen of Trail of Cthulthu.

I haven't tried Trail of Cthulhu yet, as well... I already know Call of Cthulhu, and Im finding it harder and harder to learn new systems.  But there are new ideas in there, and the artwork is *beautiful*
12  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: June 03, 2008, 02:56:36 pm
That's definitely how I would do it. That leaves everything wide open for the players to influence.

Yeah.  It's hard finding room to wedge in a wide open conflict like there is in the beginning of the saga...  But I suspect my players might not be crazy enough to try and bring down Amber themselves anyway.  (possibly..).  In which case, it's largely  a case of setting up a reason for them to want to find out what is going on behind the scenes/ clear their names.

I'm planning to make a big deal of who their parents are, as that comes into play with the whole succession.  Pity the poor wretch who gets Brand as their father. Wink
13  Side Discussions / WOTC Fourth Edition D&D / Re: I've seen the Fourth Edition PHB and MM on: June 01, 2008, 02:13:18 pm
In an early OD&D session I playing in we spent over an hour trying to spring or disarm a trap that we later discovered did not work and hadn't worked for decades. Embarrassed

I think we could easily have an entire thread for embarassing wastes of time in game... Smiley
14  General / Roleplaying Games: The Meta-Discussions / Re: What's Wrong With Not Liking Current RPGs? on: June 01, 2008, 02:11:40 pm
I seldom have that problem because I don't require skill rolls if I think the character should automatically succeed at the task he is attempting. Or I just use the skill roll to decide how well the task succeeds.  Of course, I started playing RPGs back before there were skills (D&D, early CD&D, and AD&D 1E really did not have them) so I am used to making GM decisions rather than having the dice decide everything.

Which is fair enough.  I got my start with early D&D really, so in a sense I started in the same place.  But I like skills - even when the skills are never used.  I'm wierd I guess. Wink
Other than that, I'm beginning to like styles of play that reward the chances players take, and the choices they make.  I like Unknown Armies because the best results come with the highest prices.  In the same way, I also like sorcerer...

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Perfect setup for a good game -- at least with the right players.

Well, one of my players has read the first five in the series (which is all that I'm treating as canon for the purposes of the campaign).  So having them all as unknowing pawns will be a better intro, so I can introduce them to the way things work.  I think the more familial politics of Amber will suit my players more than the somewhat arcane politics you can find in other games. Smiley
15  Side Discussions / WOTC Fourth Edition D&D / Re: I've seen the Fourth Edition PHB and MM on: May 31, 2008, 10:21:20 am
Seriously- even the traps and such seem completely toothless in 4E. I hate to sound bitter, but I really just don't understand where the fun is there.

Off on a tangent here, but I'm always amazed how ancient ruins have perfectly functioning traps <cough>Indiana Jones</cough>.

If I ever have cause to run a game featuring ruins, I think I'll include one armed with a vast array of traps that have long sprung, or plain don't work properly any more.  Possibly including the famous overly elaborate trap that can't ever be reset, and has numerous points that could cause the whole thing to fall flat. Wink
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